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Smith DNA Matched Group GRP-R-M269-17- Jesse Smith b c 1765 NC, Starling Leonard Smith b c 1898 GA. for the Smith Official DNA Project (All) at FamilyTreeDNA

Matched Group/Subgroup	Early Ancestor	Type	Migration Path
GRP-R-M269-17	1) Joseph Smith m Nancy Gay (2) Jesse Smith (NC>GA)-GRP-R-M269-17(3) Jacob Levie Goldsmid	Kit # B483**(FTD)/ FF/AUT**
GRP-R-M269-17 YDNA on FTDNA	Jesse Smith b 1765 NC (2 James 3 Alfred)	Kit # 1646**(FTD)/ YDNA**	NC>SC>GA
GRP-R-M269-17 YDNA on FTDNA	Jesse Smith b 1765 NC (2 James 3 Joseph 4 Pleasant	Kit # 5663**(FTD)/ YDNA**	NC>SC>GA (Franklin)
GRP-R-M269-17 YDNA on FTDNA	Jesse Smith b 1765 NC (Anson) 2 James 3 Stephen	Kit # 5480**(FTD)/ YDNA**	NC>NC>GA
GRP-R-M269-17	Jesse Smith b 1765 NC 2 Jesse 3 Nimrod	(FTD)/ LXnaKQ112020061136Tree Only
GRP-R-M269-17 YDNA on FTDNA	Jesse Smith b 1765 NC 2. Benjamin S Smith b 1817 m Nancy Clark 3 Andrew J 4 Jewel	Kit # 7321/ YDNA FF/AUT	GA>GA>GA (Franklin)
GRP-R-M269-17 YDNA on FTDNA	Unknown	Kit # 7667**(FTD)/ YDNA**
GRP-R-M269-17 YDNA on FTDNA	William S Smith b c 1834 m Sarah Ann Hancock	Kit # 5906**(FTD)/ YDNA**	GA >AR

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Smith DNA Project at FamilyTreeDNA Group GRP-R-M269-17
Jesse Smith b c 1765 NC, Starling Leonard Smith b c 1898 GA.

and Type With tree listing
don't see yourself or see something that needs updating or fixin'? Let us know!

The following group is created based on YDNA matches. Sometimes trees are incorrect, and sometimes the results of DNA show that believing a particular tree is yours leads to a different direction than you originally thought. If you see an error in any tree, you are encouraged to send in corrections, sources, etc or post about it on the forum. These lines represent people's research. What the Smith DNA Project attempts to do in those cases is, with sources or reasoning, get the people together in a given group to discuss and then come to a consensus about the data for updating or correcting. We do not remove information without the people who have the trees, if possible, being aware through a process so they can confirm or not, or describe the issue if there is a conflict that cannot be easily resolved. We also cannot know, nor have unlimited time to look for, places on the internet that have additional information. We rely on people whose trees these are, as project members, and members of this Smith DNA grouping, or interested passersby providing information that will set a new light on members data. There is a Submit Photo/Document/Source link on every ancestor page, as well as a Suggest changes and Contact link.
Note that all groups and discussion for the Smith DNA Project at FamilyTreeDNA, including for Group GRP-R-M269-17 are located either on FamilyTreeDNA Smith DNA Project at FamilyTreeDNA site or on the Smith DNA Project pages at smithsworldwide.org and not anywhere else, including private sites, wikitree or reddit.

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.Jesse Smith b c 1765 NC, Starling Leonard Smith b c 1898 GA. Descendants in Franklin GA

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Need source proof and additional YDNA testing for Jesse Smith m Keziah Nail of Franklin Co GA
Keziah Nail/Neal was daughter of Joseph Nail Jr who died in 1800 . She married a Jesse Smith, son of Jesse Smith Sr of Franklin Co GA. Her sister, Judith/Judah Nail/Neal married James Smith , brother to Jesse. We seek to sort out what happened to Jesse Smith/Keziah through YDNA and autosomal DNA testing. Thanks to member Monica P for being a huge wealth of information. She has said that Keziah Smith is not a wife of Jesse Smith b 1765 in NC but rather of Jesse Smith Jr, his son

First, to recap the group which is GRP-R-M269-17. There are 6 YDNA testers so far, meaning that there are 6 people who are either male Smith descendants or had kin who were male Smiths that tested for them. There is also an autosomal tester where matches are not yet proven and one tree only. 3 of the YDNA testers are from Jesse Smith b 1765 > James Smith One is through Jesse Smith b 1765 >son Benjamin S Smith. One YDNA tester is through William S Smith b 1834 m Sarah Ann Hancock, parents are unknown. And one is tree only meaning there is no comparison DNA to check against a all, and through Jesse Smith b 1765 > Jesse>Nimrod. The autosomal tester who has Jesse Smith through son James as well has not proven a match yet through the project. Finally, there is a YDNA match but the line is unknown-member was adopted. This group is estalished through YDNA and has, as you note, several different branches from Jesse Smith b 1765
So what of Jesse Smith, son of Jesse Smith b 1765 NC and brother to James? Note that the evidence so far that Jesse and James were brothers is due to a deed in 1815 from Jesse and wife Kissa to James Smith as legatees of Joseph Nail, Frankllin Co GA.
in 1840 Franklin Co G, there are 4 Jesse Smiths. One, certainily is Jesse Smith b 1765 NC. The others are 30-39, 20-29, and 20-29.

In 1840 Harbins, Lumpkin Co GA there is a Jesse Smith ages 50-59, female 40-49 . Is this the same Jesse Smith found in 1850 Killaughs, Lumpkin Co GA with wife Keziah and children Carolina, Joseph, Calloway and Martha? Family then found in Kilough, Dawson Co GA in 1860 (Dawson County from Lumpkin County). Additional notes for possible children: Martha Smith b 1834 d 1869 m William Frederick Johnson (Dawson Co) , Joseph N Smith (named after grandfather?) in 32nd Senatorial District-931st Militia District 33 yard old Exemption: Disabled (1864 Census for Re-Organizing the Georgia Miliria)+

If you are a direct descendant of Jesse and Kiziah/Kissie, and have done autosomal or YDNA, please come join the Smith DNA Project so we can compare. Or, if you are from any of the others in this YDNA proven group, come join.

Comment by smithsworldwide 2023-04-29 14:54:48

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Group Locations   Members List YDNA Tip Report Beginner Guide to Genetic Genealogy Smith DNA Project YDNA Classic Chart (marker comparisons) Understanding YDNA matches Smith DNA Project at FamilyTreeDNA Activity Feed edit
Statistics: Total Members: 8 Total YDNA: 6 Total mtDNA: 0 Total autosomal: 2 Total tree only: 1 Total Big-Y: 0
Groupings are made based on YDNA matches. Subgroupings are matches on STRs, SNPs or higher levels of markers and/or Big Y.The lineage may or may not be able to connect to another member, but hopefully listing the descent lines will lead to clues to prove the matches by lineage and location. If you believe you would fit into this group, please 1. join the Smith DNA Project at FamilyTreeDNA (Official-All), 2. Send in your direct line that includes the earliest Smith/Schmidt for whom you have a source 3. Register on the smithsworldwide.org big tree site

Matched Group/Subgroup Early Ancestor Tree/Ped/m/Y/X/FF(Aut) Type Gedmatch Migration Path

GRP-R-M269-17 1) Joseph Smith m Nancy Gay (2) Jesse Smith (NC>GA)-GRP-R-M269-17(3) Jacob Levie Goldsmid Kit # B483****(FTD)/ FF/AUT

GRP-R-M269-17 YDNA on FTDNA Jesse Smith b 1765 NC (2 James 3 Alfred) Kit # 1646****(FTD)/ YDNA NC>SC>GA

GRP-R-M269-17 YDNA on FTDNA Jesse Smith b 1765 NC (2 James 3 Joseph 4 Pleasant Kit # 5663****(FTD)/ YDNA NC>SC>GA (Franklin)

GRP-R-M269-17 YDNA on FTDNA Jesse Smith b 1765 NC (Anson) 2 James 3 Stephen Kit # 5480****(FTD)/ YDNA NC>NC>GA

GRP-R-M269-17 Jesse Smith b 1765 NC 2 Jesse 3 Nimrod (FTD)/ LXnaKQ112020061136Tree Only

GRP-R-M269-17 YDNA on FTDNA Jesse Smith b 1765 NC 2. Benjamin S Smith b 1817 m Nancy Clark 3 Andrew J 4 Jewel Kit # 7321****/ YDNA FF/AUT GA>GA>GA (Franklin)

GRP-R-M269-17 YDNA on FTDNA Unknown                       Kit # 7667****(FTD)/ YDNA

GRP-R-M269-17 YDNA on FTDNA William S Smith b c 1834 m Sarah Ann Hancock Kit # 5906****(FTD)/ YDNA GA >AR

LEGEND:
This chart, for privacy reasons, partially privatizes kit numbers. Each unique family line is represented by a *branch*. Think of one big tree with many branches. The branch number is automatically generated when a member sends his or her tree. The Smith DNA Project looks to see if the lineage is already represented or is new, as well as checks to see if the DNA results are compatible with any existing and matching line results. The YDNA, FFAUT, mtDNA, or Tree Only shows what type of DNA, if any, the member has tested for.
Groupings based on at least 37 matching YDNA markers, subject to change if better match found;autosomal, mtDNA and tree-only are only assumed to be related but a given line needs to be, if possible, vetted via a YDNA test or the autosomal tester needs to have a proven match with another autosomal tester who also has a YDNA match. We post this provisional DNA along with the proven YDNA matches in a group in order to bring attention to getting a YDNA tester to represent.
To see more information on a given *branch, click the branch description (ie, "John Smith b 1767 NC") etc.
icon for FF/AUT (Family Finder/Autosomal type test) means caution, needs to be verified. Same, obviously, with Tree Only and mtDNA. means it has been verified with at least one other autosomal match which also has been verified with the YDNA test in this group. The project also keeps autosomal groups separately while waiting for additional information to link them to a YDNA group.
Contacting a participant. Use the contact information, above. if the member is registered on this site, you may send a private message. You will also need to be registered and logged on. You can also go to a given ancestor page, and post a query to the Smith DNA Discussion forum (separate login and registration) Post a question regarding the line on the Smiths DNA Facebook group. If on FamilyTreeDNA, look up the match list and click on the email icon for a given matching kit.
The section with Tree/Ped/m/x/Y/FF(Aut) shows the top tree line and pedigree if known, and what the YDNA, mtDNA, X line would look like-does not necessarily mean the person has done a particular test- column 2 shows the test taken Groupings based on YDNA; mtDNA and FF/Aut are assumed to match based on tree; suggest those kits find a Smith male in line to YDNA compare. If you are a male Smith that did an autosomal test (Family Finder/Ancestry) and you are grouped with others, we strongly suggest you do a YDNA test as well.
A mail icon indicates that this person has registered on smithsworldwide.org, the registration has been tied to a branch, and he or she can be contacted by clicking the mail icon and sending a private message. The private message will also send an email. If the member is also a group contact for the group, there will be a "Group Contact" indication as well.
A icon indicates the line representative has not registered on this site and cannot be contacted through private message or email. If you are represented here and you are not registered, please register and be sure to include your kit number so we can look you up and tie you to your branch. You can then be directly contacted from this site.

Smith DNA Official Members By Y-DNA Smith DNA Project at FamilyTreeDNA Group GRP-R-M269-17 Jesse Smith b c 1765 NC, Starling Leonard Smith b c 1898 GA. and Type With tree listing don't see yourself or see something that needs updating or fixin'? Let us know!
The following group is created based on YDNA matches. Sometimes trees are incorrect, and sometimes the results of DNA show that believing a particular tree is yours leads to a different direction than you originally thought. If you see an error in any tree, you are encouraged to send in corrections, sources, etc or post about it on the forum. These lines represent people's research. What the Smith DNA Project attempts to do in those cases is, with sources or reasoning, get the people together in a given group to discuss and then come to a consensus about the data for updating or correcting. We do not remove information without the people who have the trees, if possible, being aware through a process so they can confirm or not, or describe the issue if there is a conflict that cannot be easily resolved. We also cannot know, nor have unlimited time to look for, places on the internet that have additional information. We rely on people whose trees these are, as project members, and members of this Smith DNA grouping, or interested passersby providing information that will set a new light on members data. There is a Submit Photo/Document/Source link on every ancestor page, as well as a Suggest changes and Contact link. Note that all groups and discussion for the Smith DNA Project at FamilyTreeDNA, including for Group GRP-R-M269-17 are located either on FamilyTreeDNA Smith DNA Project at FamilyTreeDNA site or on the Smith DNA Project pages at smithsworldwide.org and not anywhere else, including private sites, wikitree or reddit.
Group Member Photos .Jesse Smith b c 1765 NC, Starling Leonard Smith b c 1898 GA. Descendants in Franklin GA Would you like to be a contact/moderator for this group? email info@smithsworldwide.org Group Contact(s) : Explanation of SAPP YDNA tree (Pic) FAQ about SAPP YDNA Chart	Smith Group GRP-R-M269-17 Discussion Community Forum Have a photo you'd like to share for the group? Send to info@smithsworldwide.org Latest Group Discussion Post Need source proof and additional YDNA testing for Jesse Smith m Keziah Nail of Franklin Co GA Keziah Nail/Neal was daughter of Joseph Nail Jr who died in 1800 . She married a Jesse Smith, son of Jesse Smith Sr of Franklin Co GA. Her sister, Judith/Judah Nail/Neal married James Smith , brother to Jesse. We seek to sort out what happened to Jesse Smith/Keziah through YDNA and autosomal DNA testing. Thanks to member Monica P for being a huge wealth of information. She has said that Keziah Smith is not a wife of Jesse Smith b 1765 in NC but rather of Jesse Smith Jr, his son First, to recap the group which is GRP-R-M269-17. There are 6 YDNA testers so far, meaning that there are 6 people who are either male Smith descendants or had kin who were male Smiths that tested for them. There is also an autosomal tester where matches are not yet proven and one tree only. 3 of the YDNA testers are from Jesse Smith b 1765 > James Smith One is through Jesse Smith b 1765 >son Benjamin S Smith. One YDNA tester is through William S Smith b 1834 m Sarah Ann Hancock, parents are unknown. And one is tree only meaning there is no comparison DNA to check against a all, and through Jesse Smith b 1765 > Jesse>Nimrod. The autosomal tester who has Jesse Smith through son James as well has not proven a match yet through the project. Finally, there is a YDNA match but the line is unknown-member was adopted. This group is estalished through YDNA and has, as you note, several different branches from Jesse Smith b 1765 So what of Jesse Smith, son of Jesse Smith b 1765 NC and brother to James? Note that the evidence so far that Jesse and James were brothers is due to a deed in 1815 from Jesse and wife Kissa to James Smith as legatees of Joseph Nail, Frankllin Co GA. in 1840 Franklin Co G, there are 4 Jesse Smiths. One, certainily is Jesse Smith b 1765 NC. The others are 30-39, 20-29, and 20-29. In 1840 Harbins, Lumpkin Co GA there is a Jesse Smith ages 50-59, female 40-49 . Is this the same Jesse Smith found in 1850 Killaughs, Lumpkin Co GA with wife Keziah and children Carolina, Joseph, Calloway and Martha? Family then found in Kilough, Dawson Co GA in 1860 (Dawson County from Lumpkin County). Additional notes for possible children: Martha Smith b 1834 d 1869 m William Frederick Johnson (Dawson Co) , Joseph N Smith (named after grandfather?) in 32nd Senatorial District-931st Militia District 33 yard old Exemption: Disabled (1864 Census for Re-Organizing the Georgia Miliria)+ If you are a direct descendant of Jesse and Kiziah/Kissie, and have done autosomal or YDNA, please come join the Smith DNA Project so we can compare. Or, if you are from any of the others in this YDNA proven group, come join. Comment by smithsworldwide 2023-04-29 14:54:48 Want to comment in this group? Go to Smith Discussion Group Forum
Group Locations Members List YDNA Tip Report Beginner Guide to Genetic Genealogy Smith DNA Project YDNA Classic Chart (marker comparisons) Understanding YDNA matches Smith DNA Project at FamilyTreeDNA Activity Feed edit Statistics: Total Members: 8 Total YDNA: 6 Total mtDNA: 0 Total autosomal: 2 Total tree only: 1 Total Big-Y: 0 Groupings are made based on YDNA matches. Subgroupings are matches on STRs, SNPs or higher levels of markers and/or Big Y.The lineage may or may not be able to connect to another member, but hopefully listing the descent lines will lead to clues to prove the matches by lineage and location. If you believe you would fit into this group, please 1. join the Smith DNA Project at FamilyTreeDNA (Official-All), 2. Send in your direct line that includes the earliest Smith/Schmidt for whom you have a source 3. Register on the smithsworldwide.org big tree site