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The following group is created based on YDNA matches. Sometimes trees are incorrect, and sometimes the results of DNA show that believing a particular tree is yours leads to a different direction than you originally thought. If you see an error in any tree, you are encouraged to send in corrections, sources, etc or post about it on the forum. These lines represent people's research. What the Smith DNA Project attempts to do in those cases is, with sources or reasoning, get the people together in a given group to discuss and then come to a consensus about the data for updating or correcting. We do not remove information without the people who have the trees, if possible,  being aware through a process so they can confirm or not, or describe the issue if there is a conflict that cannot be easily resolved. We also cannot know, nor have unlimited time to look for, places on the internet that have additional information. We rely on people whose trees these are, as project members, and members of this Smith DNA grouping, or interested passersby providing information that will set a new light on members data. There is a Submit Photo/Document/Source link on every ancestor page, as well as a Suggest changes and Contact link.
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Quite a few of these Smiths seem to have a common location in Chatham Co NC and/or Wilkes County, North Carolina (parenthesis are when it appears people are grouped together or close on the censu

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 The elusive Sherrard Smith ties these 3 groups
Wilson County, TN
Smith land transactions occurred 1807-1828. The following Smith’s bought, sold, or witnessed land transactions with another Smiths: Mitchum (Meacham), Kitchen, Jesse, James, Absolum, Drury, and Neil. 1820 census:  James the youngest, Coleman, Neil, Jesse, Absolum, Meacham and Drury the eldest (all on same page).
Absolum Smith 1788-1856 m. Lydia Baird 2 Oct 1817 Wilson Co., TN. He moved to Morgan & Scott Co., IL
Drury Smith b. Bef. 1775. in 1820 he is living with 5 children or grandchildren, all under the age of 10,
Neil Smith I144503 m. Betsey Reese 10 Mar 1813 in Wilson Co., TN. He moved to Rutherford, TN 1830-1840.
Jesse Smith I31824 m. Fanny Reese. Jesse moved to Scott Co., IL. Jesse Smith has a Y-DNA tester. None of the others have tested Y-DNA.

Chatham Co., NC
Absalom Smith I82135 1759-1817 married Nancy. Absalom was in Chatham Co., from 1785-1805. In the 1800 census he had a wife, 8 children and 1 slave. From 1813-1817 he was in Logan Co., KY. He owned 175 acres at the time of his death. There are several documents naming all known children Absalom executors are his sons Burton & Needham Smith. Sherrard another son, sued the estate for a debt and won. This case introduces us to many other Smith’s. Absolum, Drury, and Neil Smith of Wilson Co., TN were summoned. See more comments about the case . Many of the court documents are located in the gallery of Absalom Smith on a Smith collaborated Ancestry tree. Absolum of Wilson Co., TN is not a son of Absalom of Logan Co., KY. He could be a nephew. In 1819 Simpson Co. KY was formed from Logan. Nancy is still living on the same land now located in Simpson Co., KY. This clearly ties Absalom of Chatham Co., NC and the Smiths of Wilson Co., TN.
No known Y-DNA testers.

Warrick Co., IN
Isham Smith I147347 & Wiley Smith I111152 are administrator and security for Sherrard Smith estate Wiley was living in same district in Simpson Co., KY from 1820-1824 as Nancy, Absalom’s wife. This clearly ties Absalom of Chatham Co., NC and the Smiths of Warrick Co., IN. Isham & Wiley both have Y-DNA testers.

This may be a case of a Smith marrying another Smith.
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Statistics: Total Members: 31 Total YDNA: 19 Total mtDNA: 1 Total autosomal: 14 Total tree only: 0 Total Big-Y: 2

Groupings are made based on YDNA matches. Subgroupings are matches on STRs, SNPs or higher levels of markers and/or Big Y.The lineage may or may not be able to connect to another member, but hopefully listing the descent lines will lead to clues to prove the matches by lineage and location. If you believe you would fit into this group, please 1. join the Smith DNA Project at FamilyTreeDNA (Official-All), 2. Send in your direct line that includes the earliest Smith/Schmidt for whom you have a source 3. Register on the smithsworldwide.org big tree site
Matched Group/Subgroup Early Ancestor Tree/Ped/m/Y/X/FF(Aut)Type Gedmatch Migration Path
GRP-R-M269-1 (1) Benjamin Smith b 1806 VA m Martha Hopps (2) Unknown Smith NC >Isham>Isham>Isaac E Kit # B899****(FTD)/ FF/AUT  VA (Franklin Co)
GRP-R-M269-1 YDNA on FTDNA Alfred Max Smith b 1819 TN m Sarah (Scott Co IL) 2 John 3 Alfred Kit # 1651****(FTD)/ YDNA  TN>IL
GRP-R-M269-1 YDNA on FTDNA Benjamin Smith m ? Locklear SC 2. William Henry 3 William Edward Kit # 1277****(FTD)/ YDNA  SC>SC>GA
GRP-R-M269-1 YDNA on FTDNA Elisha Smith b c 1803 SC m Elizabeth Middleton 2 Jesse 3 Howard Group Contact Edit Edit Kit # 6175****(FTD)/ YDNA  SC>GA>AR
GRP-R-M269-1 Frederick Smith b bet 1700-1799 NC m Elizabeth 2 James J 3 Charles A Kit # B647****(FTD)/ FF/AUT  NC>GA>TX(Grimes)
GRP-R-M269-1 /BY-R-M269-33 YDNA on FTDNA S1-111 (R-Y36400) Frederick Smith b bet 1700-1799 NC m Elizabeth 2 James J 3 Charles A Kit # 9269****(FTD)/ YDNA  BigY  FF/AUT  NC>GA>TX(Grimes)
GRP-R-M269-1 Frederick Smith b bet 1790 and 1799 NC m Elizabeth 2 Louiza Kit # B173****(FTD)/ FF/AUT  NC>GA(Upson)>MS>TX
GRP-R-M269-1 YDNA on FTDNA Frederick Smith bet 1790-1799 NC m Elizabeth 2 James J 3 Frederick Kit # 9647****(FTD)/ YDNA  FF/AUT  NC > GA (Upson)
GRP-R-M269-1 YDNA on FTDNA Isham Smith b 1756 NC m Aney 2 Wiley b 1799 3. Isham b 1822 Kit # 9728****(FTD)/ YDNA  NC (Chatham)>IN (Warrick)
GRP-R-M269-1 YDNA on FTDNA Isham Smith b 1756 NC m Aney 2. Isam Smith b 1808 TN 3 Isaac 4 James Kit # 4840****/ YDNA  TN>MO>CA
GRP-R-M269-1 Isham Smith b c 1756 NC m Aney 2. Wiley Smith 3. Isham Smith Kit # 5597****(FTD)/ FF/AUT  NC (Chatham) > Indiana (Warrick)
GRP-R-M269-1 /BY-R-M269-33 YDNA on FTDNA S1-111 (R-Y36400) Jeremiah Smith b 1780 NC m Susannah Maynard 2 Fredrick 3 George Kit # B338****/ YDNA  BigY  FF/AUT  NC>KY
GRP-R-M269-1 Jeremiah Smith b 1780 NC m Susannah Maynard 2 Fredrick 3 George Kit # 9757****(FTD)/ FF/AUT  NC>KY(Pike)
GRP-R-M269-1 Jesse Smith b c 1785 NC m Fanny Reese (Wilson TN>Scott CoIL) Kit # B169****(FTD)/ FF/AUT 
GRP-R-M269-1 YDNA on FTDNA Jesse Smith b c 1785 NC m Fanny Reese (Wilson TN>Scott CoIL) 2 Drury 3 Nicholas Kit # 3281****(FTD)/ YDNA  NC>TN>IL
GRP-R-M269-1 Jesse Smith b c 1785 NC m Fanny Reese Kit # 3492****(FTD)/ FF/AUT 
GRP-R-M269-1 YDNA on FTDNA John J Smith b 1798 SC m Nancy A Spurlock 2 John 3 John Kit # 1238****(FTD)/ YDNA  SC>GA>GA
GRP-R-M269-1 YDNA on FTDNA John Smith abt 1810 Virginia 2 Allen 3 William Kit # B430****/ YDNA  VA,TN,OK
GRP-R-M269-1 K Needham Smith b 1778 NC m Rebecca(2 Richard 3 Wiley) Kit # 2169****(FTD)/ mtDNA  NC>TN>TN
GRP-R-M269-1 YDNA on FTDNA K Needham Smith b c 1778 NC m Rebecca (Robertson TN) 2 Richard 3 Wiley Kit # 1223****(FTD)/ YDNA  NC>TN>TN
GRP-R-M269-1 Malcolm Smith b 1765 Chatham NC m Sally Grinad Kit # B940****(FTD)/ FF/AUT 
GRP-R-M269-1 YDNA on FTDNA Malcolm Smith m Sally Grinad (2 Abraham 3 Thomas (Smith Co TN) Kit # 1956****(FTD)/ YDNA  TN>TN
GRP-R-M269-1 YDNA on FTDNA Randall M Smith b 1804 NC m Jemima Sneed 2. George Smith 3. Owen 4 Vance Kit # 1176****(FTD)/ YDNA  TN>AR>AR
GRP-R-M269-1 YDNA on FTDNA Sherman Smith b 1870 tn m Lourina Tuttle Kit # 7770****(FTD)/ YDNA  TN>TN (Anderson)>KY(Whitley)
GRP-R-M269-1 Sherman Smith b 1870 tn m Lourina Tuttle Kit # B232****(FTD)/ FF/AUT 
GRP-R-M269-1 YDNA on FTDNA Unknown                       Kit # N114****(FTD)/ YDNA 
GRP-R-M269-1 Unknown Smith- Chatham Co NC 2. Wyatt 3 Ethel E 4 John P Kit # B725****(FTD)/ FF/AUT 
GRP-R-M269-1 YDNA on FTDNA William Jordan (Jourdan) Smith b c 1805 NC m Martha Winningham (Bledsoe TN) 2 William 3 Sherman Kit # 1123****(FTD)/ YDNA  NC>TN>TN
GRP-R-M269-1 William Jordan Smith b 1805 NC m Martha Winningham Kit # 4386****(FTD)/ FF/AUT 
GRP-R-M269-1 YDNA on FTDNA William Smith b 1813 TN m Margaret 2 Franklin 3 John Kit # 1023****(FTD)/ YDNA  TN>IL
GRP-R-M269-1 YDNA on FTDNA Wyatt Smith b 1768 NC m Peggy (Bledsoe TN) 2 William 3 Spencer Kit # 6123****(FTD)/ YDNA  NC>TN>TN>MO

LEGEND:
This chart, for privacy reasons, partially privatizes kit numbers. Each unique family line is represented by a *branch*. Think of one big tree with many branches. The branch number is automatically generated when a member sends his or her tree. The Smith DNA Project looks to see if the lineage is already represented or is new, as well as checks to see if the DNA results are compatible with any existing and matching line results. The YDNA, FFAUT, mtDNA, or Tree Only shows what type of DNA, if any, the member has tested for.
Groupings based on at least 37 matching YDNA markers, subject to change if better match found;autosomal, mtDNA and tree-only are only assumed to be related but a given line needs to be, if possible, vetted via a YDNA test or the autosomal tester needs to have a proven match with another autosomal tester who also has a YDNA match. We post this provisional DNA along with the proven YDNA matches in a group in order to bring attention to getting a YDNA tester to represent.
To see more information on a given *branch, click the branch description (ie, "John Smith b 1767 NC") etc.
icon for FF/AUT (Family Finder/Autosomal type test) means caution, needs to be verified. Same, obviously, with Tree Only and mtDNA. means it has been verified with at least one other autosomal match which also has been verified with the YDNA test in this group. The project also keeps autosomal groups separately while waiting for additional information to link them to a YDNA group.
Contacting a participant. Use the contact information, above. if the member is registered on this site, you may send a private message. You will also need to be registered and logged on. You can also go to a given ancestor page, and post a query to the Smith DNA Discussion forum (separate login and registration)  Post a question regarding the line on the Smiths DNA Facebook group. If on FamilyTreeDNA, look up the match list and click on the email icon for a given matching kit.
The section with Tree/Ped/m/x/Y/FF(Aut) shows the top tree line and pedigree if known, and what the YDNA, mtDNA, X line would look like-does not necessarily mean the person has done a particular test- column 2 shows the test taken Groupings based on YDNA; mtDNA and FF/Aut are assumed to match based on tree; suggest those kits find a Smith male in line to YDNA compare. If you are a male Smith that did an autosomal test (Family Finder/Ancestry) and you are grouped with others, we strongly suggest you do a YDNA test as well.
A mail icon indicates that this person has registered on smithsworldwide.org, the registration has been tied to a branch, and he or she can be contacted by clicking the mail icon and sending a private message. The private message will also send an email. If the member is also a group contact for the group, there will be a "Group Contact" indication as well.
A icon indicates the line representative has not registered on this site and cannot be contacted through private message or email. If you are represented here and you are not registered, please register and be sure to include your kit number so we can look you up and tie you to your branch. You can then be directly contacted from this site.