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Smith DNA Matched Group GRP-R-M269-1- NC-Chatham CoNC, WilkesCoNC, SmithCoTN, RobertsonCoTN, ScottCoIL for the Smith Official DNA Project (All) at FamilyTreeDNA
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NC-Chatham CoNC, WilkesCoNC, SmithCoTN, RobertsonCoTN, ScottCoIL

(1) Benjamin Smith b 1806 VA m Martha Hopps (2) Unknown Smith NC >Isham>Isham>Isaac E--- Alfred Max Smith b 1819 TN m Sarah (Scott Co IL) 2 John 3 Alfred--- Benjamin Smith m ? Locklear SC 2. William Henry 3 William Edward--- Elisha Smith b c 1803 SC m Elizabeth Middleton 2 Jesse 3 Howard--- Frederick Smith b bet 1700-1799 NC m Elizabeth 2 James J 3 Charles A--- Frederick Smith b bet 1700-1799 NC m Elizabeth 2 James J 3 Charles A--- Frederick Smith b bet 1790 and 1799 NC m Elizabeth 2 Louiza--- Frederick Smith bet 1790-1799 NC m Elizabeth 2 James J 3 Frederick--- Isham Smith b 1756 NC m Aney 2 Wiley b 1799 3. Isham b 1822--- Isham Smith b 1756 NC m Aney 2. Isam Smith b 1808 TN 3 Isaac 4 James--- Isham Smith b c 1756 NC m Aney 2. Wiley Smith 3. Isham Smith--- Jeremiah Smith b 1780 NC m Susannah Maynard 2 Fredrick 3 George--- Jeremiah Smith b 1780 NC m Susannah Maynard 2 Fredrick 3 George--- Jesse Smith b c 1785 NC m Fanny Reese (Wilson TN>Scott CoIL)--- Jesse Smith b c 1785 NC m Fanny Reese (Wilson TN>Scott CoIL) 2 Drury 3 Nicholas--- Jesse Smith b c 1785 NC m Fanny Reese--- John J Smith b 1798 SC m Nancy A Spurlock 2 John 3 John--- John Smith abt 1810 Virginia 2 Allen 3 William--- K Needham Smith b 1778 NC m Rebecca(2 Richard 3 Wiley)--- K Needham Smith b c 1778 NC m Rebecca (Robertson TN) 2 Richard 3 Wiley--- Malcolm Smith b 1765 Chatham NC m Sally Grinad--- Malcolm Smith m Sally Grinad (2 Abraham 3 Thomas (Smith Co TN)--- Randall M Smith b 1804 NC m Jemima Sneed 2. George Smith 3. Owen 4 Vance--- Sherman Smith b 1870 tn m Lourina Tuttle--- Sherman Smith b 1870 tn m Lourina Tuttle--- Unknown--- Unknown Smith- Chatham Co NC 2. Wyatt 3 Ethel E 4 John P--- Unknown Smith- Chatham Co NC 2. Wyatt 3 Ethel E 4 John P--- William Jordan (Jourdan) Smith b c 1805 NC m Martha Winningham (Bledsoe TN) 2 William 3 Sherman--- William Jordan Smith b 1805 NC m Martha Winningham--- William Smith b 1813 TN m Margaret 2 Franklin 3 John--- Wyatt Smith b 1768 NC m Peggy (Bledsoe TN) 2 William 3 Spencer---

Statistics: Total Members: 32 Total YDNA: 19 Total mtDNA: 1 Total autosomal: 16 Total tree only: 0 Total Big-Y: 4
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The following group is created based on YDNA matches. Sometimes trees are incorrect, and sometimes the results of DNA show that believing a particular tree is yours leads to a different direction than you originally thought. If you see an error in any tree, you are encouraged to send in corrections, sources, etc or post about it on the forum. These lines represent people's research. What the Smith DNA Project attempts to do in those cases is, with sources or reasoning, get the people together in a given group to discuss and then come to a consensus about the data for updating or correcting. We do not remove information without the people who have the trees, if possible,  being aware through a process so they can confirm or not, or describe the issue if there is a conflict that cannot be easily resolved. We also cannot know, nor have unlimited time to look for, places on the internet that have additional information. We rely on people whose trees these are, as project members, and members of this Smith DNA grouping, or interested passersby providing information that will set a new light on members data. If you know of other DNA matches that are not in the Smith DNA Project at FamilyTreeDNA, please invite them to join the project so that we may compare here  Also, There is a Submit Photo/Document/Source link on every ancestor page, as well as a Suggest changes and Contact link. Incidentally, make sure you post your tree on FTDNA for the benefit of others who want to compare and know what line it may be.  If you believe you would fit into this group, please 1. join the Smith DNA Project at FamilyTreeDNA (Official-All), 2. Send in your direct line that includes the earliest Smith/Schmidt for whom you have a source 3.  Register on the smithsworldwide.org big tree site    Don't see yourself or see something that needs updating or fixin'? Let us know!
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Matched Group/Subgroup Early Ancestor Tree/Ped/m/Y/X/FF(Aut) Kit# / Type Test SNP Gedmatch Migration Path
GRP-R-M269-1 (1) Benjamin Smith b 1806 VA m Martha Hopps (2) Unknown Smith NC >Isham>Isham>Isaac E Kit # B899****/ FF/AUT  VA (Franklin Co)
GRP-R-M269-1 Alfred Max Smith b 1819 TN m Sarah (Scott Co IL) 2 John 3 Alfred Kit # 1651****/ YDNA  R-M269 TN>IL
GRP-R-M269-1 Benjamin Smith m ? Locklear SC 2. William Henry 3 William Edward Kit # 1277****/ YDNA  R-M269 SC>SC>GA
GRP-R-M269-1 Elisha Smith b c 1803 SC m Elizabeth Middleton 2 Jesse 3 Howard Group Contact Edit Kit # 6175****/ YDNA  R-M269 SC>GA>AR
GRP-R-M269-1 Frederick Smith b bet 1700-1799 NC m Elizabeth 2 James J 3 Charles A Kit # B647****/ FF/AUT  NC>GA>TX(Grimes)
GRP-R-M269-1 Frederick Smith b bet 1700-1799 NC m Elizabeth 2 James J 3 Charles A Kit # 9269****/ YDNA  BigY FF/AUT  R-FTD26540 NC>GA>TX(Grimes)
GRP-R-M269-1 Frederick Smith b bet 1790 and 1799 NC m Elizabeth 2 Louiza Kit # B173****/ FF/AUT  NC>GA(Upson)>MS>TX
GRP-R-M269-1 Frederick Smith bet 1790-1799 NC m Elizabeth 2 James J 3 Frederick Kit # 9647****/ YDNA  BigY FF/AUT  R-FTD26540 NC > GA (Upson)
GRP-R-M269-1 Isham Smith b 1756 NC m Aney 2 Wiley b 1799 3. Isham b 1822 Kit # 9728****/ YDNA  BigY R-FT420265 NC (Chatham)>IN (Warrick)
GRP-R-M269-1 Isham Smith b 1756 NC m Aney 2. Isam Smith b 1808 TN 3 Isaac 4 James Kit # 4840****/ YDNA  R-FT20705 TN>MO>CA
GRP-R-M269-1 Isham Smith b c 1756 NC m Aney 2. Wiley Smith 3. Isham Smith Kit # 5597****/ FF/AUT  NC (Chatham) > Indiana (Warrick)
GRP-R-M269-1 Jeremiah Smith b 1780 NC m Susannah Maynard 2 Fredrick 3 George Kit # B338****/ YDNA  BigY FF/AUT  R-FT420265 NC>KY
GRP-R-M269-1 Jeremiah Smith b 1780 NC m Susannah Maynard 2 Fredrick 3 George Kit # 9757****/ FF/AUT  NC>KY(Pike)
GRP-R-M269-1 Jesse Smith b c 1785 NC m Fanny Reese (Wilson TN>Scott CoIL) Kit # B169****/ FF/AUT 
GRP-R-M269-1 Jesse Smith b c 1785 NC m Fanny Reese (Wilson TN>Scott CoIL) 2 Drury 3 Nicholas Kit # 3281****/ YDNA  R-M269 NC>TN>IL
GRP-R-M269-1 Jesse Smith b c 1785 NC m Fanny Reese Kit # 3492****/ FF/AUT 
GRP-R-M269-1 John J Smith b 1798 SC m Nancy A Spurlock 2 John 3 John Kit # 1238****/ YDNA  R-M269 SC>GA>GA
GRP-R-M269-1 John Smith abt 1810 Virginia 2 Allen 3 William Kit # B430****/ YDNA  R-M269 VA,TN,OK
GRP-R-M269-1 K Needham Smith b 1778 NC m Rebecca(2 Richard 3 Wiley) Kit # 2169****/ mtDNA  NC>TN>TN
GRP-R-M269-1 K Needham Smith b c 1778 NC m Rebecca (Robertson TN) 2 Richard 3 Wiley Kit # 1223****/ YDNA  R-M269 NC>TN>TN
GRP-R-M269-1 Malcolm Smith b 1765 Chatham NC m Sally Grinad Kit # B940****/ FF/AUT 
GRP-R-M269-1 Malcolm Smith m Sally Grinad (2 Abraham 3 Thomas (Smith Co TN) Kit # 1956****/ YDNA  R-M269 TN>TN
GRP-R-M269-1 Randall M Smith b 1804 NC m Jemima Sneed 2. George Smith 3. Owen 4 Vance Kit # 1176****/ YDNA  FF/AUT  R-FT20705 TN>AR>AR
GRP-R-M269-1 Sherman Smith b 1870 tn m Lourina Tuttle Kit # 7770****/ YDNA  R-M269 TN>TN (Anderson)>KY(Whitley)
GRP-R-M269-1 Sherman Smith b 1870 tn m Lourina Tuttle Kit # B232****/ FF/AUT 
GRP-R-M269-1 Unknown                       Kit # N114****/ YDNA  R-M269
GRP-R-M269-1 Unknown Smith- Chatham Co NC 2. Wyatt 3 Ethel E 4 John P Kit # B725****/ FF/AUT 
GRP-R-M269-1 Unknown Smith- Chatham Co NC 2. Wyatt 3 Ethel E 4 John P Kit # B981****/ FF/AUT 
GRP-R-M269-1 William Jordan (Jourdan) Smith b c 1805 NC m Martha Winningham (Bledsoe TN) 2 William 3 Sherman Kit # 1123****/ YDNA  R-M269 NC>TN>TN
GRP-R-M269-1 William Jordan Smith b 1805 NC m Martha Winningham Kit # 4386****/ FF/AUT  R-PF6652
GRP-R-M269-1 William Smith b 1813 TN m Margaret 2 Franklin 3 John Kit # 1023****/ YDNA  R-M269 TN>IL
GRP-R-M269-1 Wyatt Smith b 1768 NC m Peggy (Bledsoe TN) 2 William 3 Spencer Kit # 6123****/ YDNA  R-M269 NC>TN>TN>MO
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This chart, for privacy reasons, partially privatizes kit numbers. Each unique family line is represented by a *branch*. Think of one big tree with many branches. The branch number is automatically generated when a member sends his or her tree. The Smith DNA Project looks to see if the lineage is already represented or is new, as well as checks to see if the DNA results are compatible with any existing and matching line results. The YDNA, FFAUT, mtDNA, or Tree Only shows what type of DNA, if any, the member has tested for.
Groupings based on at least 37 matching YDNA markers, subject to change if better match found. If you have done less than 37, ie, 12 or 25, please considering upgrading your markers to at least 37 so we can get a determinative group for you;autosomal, mtDNA and tree-only are only assumed to be related but a given line needs to be, if possible, vetted via a YDNA test or the autosomal tester needs to have a proven match with another autosomal tester who also has a YDNA match. We post this provisional DNA along with the proven YDNA matches in a group in order to bring attention to getting a YDNA tester to represent.
To see more information on a given *branch, click the branch description (ie, "John Smith b 1767 NC") etc.
icon for FF/AUT (Family Finder/Autosomal type test) means caution, needs to be verified. Same, obviously, with Tree Only and mtDNA. means it has been verified with at least one other autosomal match which also has been verified with the YDNA test in this group. The project also keeps autosomal groups separately while waiting for additional information to link them to a YDNA group.
To see the terminal SNP is order, click the column SNP. If the kit taker has also done a Big-Y kit, that will be shown in the Kit/Type Test column and clicking the SNP number will take you to the Big-Y Time Tree for this group, otherwise, the SNP is determined by FTDNA and there is no link on the SNP.
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The section with Tree/Ped/m/x/Y/FF(Aut) shows the top tree line and pedigree if known, and what the YDNA, mtDNA, X line would look like-does not necessarily mean the person has done a particular test- column 2 shows the test taken Groupings based on YDNA; mtDNA and FF/Aut are assumed to match based on tree; suggest those kits find a Smith male in line to YDNA compare. If you are a male Smith that did an autosomal test (Family Finder/Ancestry) and you are grouped with others, we strongly suggest you do a YDNA test as well.
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Latest Group Discussion Post

 Needham Smith I155007 & K Needham Smith I22852

Are they the same person?

I155007 Needham Smith born 1778 in Chatham, NC, son of I82135 Absalum Smith 1759-1817
Needham Absalum son 1800 Chatham NC census 50 of 83 couple with daughter
Needham Absalum son 1810 Chatham NC census 35 of 36 Couple w/ 5 children
Needham Absalum son 1812 Robertson TN land TN early Tax list 2nd image # 39 & Burton #36
Needham Absalum son 1817 Logan KY Probate exctr of Absolom estate page 72
Needham Absalum son 1818 Simpson KY Probate Circuit Court Absolum Estate
Needham Absalum son 1824 Calloway KY tax Calloway Tax Books 44/1067
Needham Absalum son 1825 Calloway KY tax Calloway Tax Books 69/1067  James Smith next to him
Needham Absalum son 1827 Calloway KY tax Calloway Tax Books 114/1067
Needham Absalum son 1828 Calloway KY land A-164 117/584
Needham Absalum son 1828 Calloway KY tax Calloway Tax Books 143/1067
Needham Absalum son 1829 Calloway KY tax Calloway Tax Books 168/1067
Needham Absalum son 1830 Calloway KY census 13/62 13/62 Couple w 3 children
Needham Absalum son 1831 Calloway KY land C-61 36/776 Needham & Rebecca sell

We know that I82113 Burton and I155007 Needham were in Robertson, TN in 1812.
Absalum Smith was also in Robertson, TN in 1815 when he sold his land in Chatham, NC
And then there is I22852 K. Needham Smith b. 1778 in NC Y-DNA GRP-R-M269-1 match kit 122398.
Needham 122398 1836 Robertson TN tax TN early Tax list  
Needham 122398 1837 Robertson TN tax TN early Tax list  
Needham 122398 1840 Robertson TN census 50 of 125 couple with daughter
K. Needham 122398 1850 Robertson TN census 15 of 20 Needham & Rebecca Smith
Needham 122398 1860 Polk MO census 33 of 39 living with dau in law & family
Also note both of their wives are Rebecca.
 
Comment by Sherry10190 2024-02-26 12:34:04