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I-FT30147 4942**  3260** , B244**,8914**
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 Flatt and Luzerne County, PA Mystery
The Flatt from Andrew Flatt who got a land grant in 1788 Muncy, Northumberland Co PA looks to be the ostensible earliest Flatt for this line fitting into this group. There is a YDNA conflict between some others in the Flatt Project who have strong matches with who they also believe is Andrew Flatt b 1755 Woodbridge, Middlesex County, NJ, including a YDNA Flatt tester from McKean, PA. The Flatts that match seem to have an origin in the Orkney Islands, Scotland and have descendants in a number of states, including Pennylvania, Tennessee, Kentucky, Illinois, and Texas. The book by Travis Flatt on the Flatt lines indicates that Andrew Flatt fought in the Revolutionary War and after the war homestateded in Muncy, PA; was granted land in Luzerne County PA and supposedly built the Quaker Church at Penndale and in fact is buried in the Friends Cemetery at Penndale. Another note tying Andrew Flatt to Muncy is where a Daniel Ogden, Tory, had a "bitter enemy .. Flatt living near Muncy, then known as Pennsburg. On two occasions, Flatt came over the mountains on purpose to shoot Ogdon but did not find him at home". Ogdon later sold his land to John Hill. Could John Hill have been kin to the wife of Andrew Flatt, Margaret Hill? 

This Flatt, however, matches Smith. In the Big-Y grouping for these Smiths, 3 of the members have origins in common in New London County, Connecticut. Another Smith was in Clinton county, Pennsylvania, before going to Harford, Maryland, and the Flatt was in Luzerne County, PA. One of the closest matches for this Flatt is from Nehemiah Smith > William Smith who was a Revolutionary War hero who died in 1778 in Wyoming, Luzerne County, PA and is buried in the Forty Fort Cemetery in Luzerne County. Another member who has not done a Big-Y test but matches on STRs has a David Smith (from New London County, Connecticut), also a DAR ancestor, who diedin 1811 in Pittston, Luzerne County, PA and is buried in the Jenkins-Harding Cemetery in West Pittston, Luzerne Co PA. Saying that at least 3 members have had Luzerne County PA as a common location at some point. Saying that New London Connecticut, at least for part is a place of origin, that the majoirty of testers can trace their line back to Nehemiah Smith, AND several were in Luzerne Co PA at some point. 

It appears that the line of Flatts in Henderson County, Illinois are consistent and match , so, assuming an NPE (Non Paternity Event), it would have happened before this, at least in PA, since, for example, Van Buren Flatt was born in 1833. 
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Statistics: Total Members: 5 Total YDNA: 0 Total mtDNA: 0 Total autosomal: 0 Total tree only: 0 Total Big-Y: 5

Groupings are made based on YDNA matches. Subgroupings are matches on STRs, SNPs or higher levels of markers and/or Big Y.The lineage may or may not be able to connect to another member, but hopefully listing the descent lines will lead to clues to prove the matches by lineage and location. If you believe you would fit into this group, please 1. join the Smith DNA Project at FamilyTreeDNA (Official-All), 2. Send in your direct line that includes the earliest Smith/Schmidt for whom you have a source 3. Register on the smithsworldwide.org big tree site
Matched Group/Subgroup Early Ancestor Tree/Ped/m/Y/X/FF(Aut)Type Gedmatch Migration Path
BY-I-M223-2 GRP-I-M223-6/BY-I-M223-2 S1-111 (I-FT27362) Edward Smith b 1637 Nottingham England m Elizabeth Bliss Kit # B244****/ YDNA  BigY  ENG>CT(New London)>NY(Sullivan)
BY-I-M223-2 GRP-I-M223-6/BY-I-M223-2 S1-111 (I-FT27362) Jedediah Smith (Rev) b 1802 Lyme, New London Co., CT m Sally Wilcox Kit # 8914****(FTD)/ YDNA  BigY  CT(New London) >NY(Chenango, Chautauqua)>MI(Lenawee)
BY-I-M223-2 GRP-I-M223-6/BY-I-M223-2 S1-111 (I-FT27362) Nehemiah Smith m Ann Bourne 2 Nehemiah 3 Samuel 4 Samuel Kit # 3260****(FTD)/ YDNA  BigY  CT(New London) >PA(Luzerne)
BY-I-M223-2 GRP-I-M223-6/BY-I-M223-2 S1-111 (I-FT29908) Buel Jagger SMith b 1815 NY m Sarah ? Kit # 4942****/ YDNA  BigY  NY>PA (Clinton)>MD (Harford)
BY-I-M223-2 GRP-I-M223-6/BY-I-M223-2 S1-111 (I-FT30147) Unknown Smith - Flatt surname - PA/CT Kit # 6662****(FTD)/ YDNA  BigY  PA (Lycoming, Luzerne) > IL>IA

LEGEND:
This chart, for privacy reasons, partially privatizes kit numbers. Each unique family line is represented by a *branch*. Think of one big tree with many branches. The branch number is automatically generated when a member sends his or her tree. The Smith DNA Project looks to see if the lineage is already represented or is new, as well as checks to see if the DNA results are compatible with any existing and matching line results. The YDNA, FFAUT, mtDNA, or Tree Only shows what type of DNA, if any, the member has tested for.
Groupings based on at least 37 matching YDNA markers, subject to change if better match found;autosomal, mtDNA and tree-only are assumed to be related but we still suggest that, if possible the autosomal tester, etc, find a Smith YDNA tester of a particular line to test to be sure.
To see more information on a given *branch, click the branch description (ie, "John Smith b 1767 NC") etc.
icon for FF/AUT (Family Finder/Autosomal type test) means caution, needs to be verified. means it has been verified with at least one other autosomal match
Contacting a participant. Use the contact information, above. if the member is registered on this site, you may send a private message. You will also need to be registered and logged on. You can also go to a given ancestor page, and post a query to the Smith DNA Discussion forum (separate login and registration)  Post a question regarding the line on the Smiths DNA Facebook group. If on FamilyTreeDNA, look up the match list and click on the email icon for a given matching kit.
The section with Tree/Ped/m/x/Y/FF(Aut) shows the top tree line and pedigree if known, and what the YDNA, mtDNA, X line would look like-does not necessarily mean the person has done a particular test- column 2 shows the test taken Groupings based on YDNA; mtDNA and FF/Aut are assumed to match based on tree; suggest those kits find a Smith male in line to YDNA compare. If you are a male Smith that did an autosomal test (Family Finder/Ancestry) and you are grouped with others, we strongly suggest you do a YDNA test as well.
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