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 Added Big-Y Group for Virginia Smiths and a Mystery
There are two members who have tested Big-YThe 3rd member has done 111 markers but not Big-Y. Locations are Virginia (Middlesex, Botetourt) to Indiana, Iowa, Illinois.  chart on this page 

Now for a mystery. In looking at possible nexus for these 3 testers, as well as a completely different line re: Ambrose Joshua Smith of Spotsylvania, I noticed that Findagrave has a discrepancy between whether the parents of James A Smith b 1760 VA d 1842 Hardin Co KY is Ambrose Joshua Smith b 1720 m Isabelle Coleman OR John Smith Jr b 1735 VA d 1841 Hardin Co KY. I believe it is the latter, which is represented by this YDNA group. First up, James A Smith is buried in the Maffet Cemetery in Elizabethtown, Hardin Co KY. So is John Smith b 1735  Ambrose Joshua Smith, on the other hand, is buried in Spotsylvania County in the Smith Familiy Cemetery. Ambrose Smith of Spotsylvania listed his children in 1797 as James Smith, Frances Luck, Isabellla Smith, Eliza Smith, John Smith, George Smith and Eleanor Smith (Mastin). Further Ambrose Joshua Smith had gifted land to son James Smith in 1790, in Spotsylvania. There is nothing to indicate that the Smiths et al left Spotsylvania but welcome any records showing locations. And there is no specific information showing that the James in Hardin Co KY is the same James as son of Ambrose Joshua Smith. In fact, the blurb on Findagrave for John Smith b 1735 who is in the Maffett Cemetery says 

John Smith came to Kentucky very early, along with his son after the Revolutionary War. He and his son, James Smith had a close relationship with both Daniel and Squire Boone. He died at the age of 106 after taking a stroll (yes a stroll at the age of 106 in 1841) and scratched his leg on a mulberry bush, and the scratch became infected. He is a hero, fighting in two wars and helping to settle and establish the beautiful state of Kentucky and Mill Creek in Hardin County.

Would specifically like additional YDNA testers, as well as autosomal testers who have a solid line to 1. John Smith b 1715 VA m Ann 2. Joseph Smith b 1780 VA m Susannah Smith and 3. Joseph Smith b 1839 Indiana m Evalyn Simerle(y) > Andrew Co MO 

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Statistics: Total Members: 2 Total YDNA: 0 Total mtDNA: 0 Total autosomal: 0 Total tree only: 0 Total Big-Y: 2

Groupings are made based on YDNA matches. Subgroupings are matches on STRs, SNPs or higher levels of markers and/or Big Y.The lineage may or may not be able to connect to another member, but hopefully listing the descent lines will lead to clues to prove the matches by lineage and location. If you believe you would fit into this group, please 1. join the Smith DNA Project at FamilyTreeDNA (Official-All), 2. Send in your direct line that includes the earliest Smith/Schmidt for whom you have a source 3. Register on the big tree site
Matched Group/Subgroup Early Ancestor Tree/Ped/m/Y/X/FF(Aut)Type Gedmatch Migration Path
BY-I-M223-1 GRP-I-M223-8/BY-I-M223-1 S1-111 (I-BY66988) John Smith b c 1715 VA m Ann Kit # 1291****(FTD)/ YDNA  BigY  VA>VA>VA>VA>KY
BY-I-M223-1 GRP-I-M223-8/BY-I-M223-1 S1-111 (I-BY66988) Joseph Smith b 1780 Botetourt VA m Susannah Smith Kit # 2869****(FTD)/ YDNA  BigY  VA>IN>IA

This chart, for privacy reasons, partially privatizes kit numbers. Each unique family line is represented by a *branch*. Think of one big tree with many branches. The branch number is automatically generated when a member sends his or her tree. The Smith DNA Project looks to see if the lineage is already represented or is new, as well as checks to see if the DNA results are compatible with any existing and matching line results. The YDNA, FFAUT, mtDNA, or Tree Only shows what type of DNA, if any, the member has tested for.
Groupings based on at least 37 matching YDNA markers, subject to change if better match found;autosomal, mtDNA and tree-only are assumed to be related but we still suggest that, if possible the autosomal tester, etc, find a Smith YDNA tester of a particular line to test to be sure.
To see more information on a given *branch, click the branch description (ie, "John Smith b 1767 NC") etc.
icon for FF/AUT (Family Finder/Autosomal type test) means caution, needs to be verified. means it has been verified with at least one other autosomal match
Contacting a participant. Use the contact information, above. if the member is registered on this site, you may send a private message. You will also need to be registered and logged on. You can also go to a given ancestor page, and post a query to the Smith DNA Discussion forum (separate login and registration)  Post a question regarding the line on the Smiths DNA Facebook group. If on FamilyTreeDNA, look up the match list and click on the email icon for a given matching kit.
The section with Tree/Ped/m/x/Y/FF(Aut) shows the top tree line and pedigree if known, and what the YDNA, mtDNA, X line would look like-does not necessarily mean the person has done a particular test- column 2 shows the test taken Groupings based on YDNA; mtDNA and FF/Aut are assumed to match based on tree; suggest those kits find a Smith male in line to YDNA compare. If you are a male Smith that did an autosomal test (Family Finder/Ancestry) and you are grouped with others, we strongly suggest you do a YDNA test as well.
A mail icon indicates that this person has registered on, the registration has been tied to a branch, and he or she can be contacted by clicking the mail icon and sending a private message. The private message will also send an email. If the member is also a group contact for the group, there will be a "Group Contact" indication as well.
A icon indicates the line representative has not registered on this site and cannot be contacted through private message or email. If you are represented here and you are not registered, please register and be sure to include your kit number so we can look you up and tie you to your branch. You can then be directly contaeted from this site.