Darius Smith - Welland, Ontario and Darius Champion Smith
Posted by ourhistree in Smith Tangled Lines on November 16, 2022 Views:(59) Replies (3)
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Hello Smith Family,
Thank you for allowing me to join your group. I'm hoping to sort out some confusion.
My Smith line is as follows:
*Darius Smith (abt. 1794-?) & Elizabeth (abt. 1805-?) are my 4th great-grandparents . They have been located only once in the 1861 Wainfleet, Welland, Ontario, Canada. They are living beside his son Ira Smith. I cannot confirm any other records to support who they are.
Darius and Elizabeth had four sons.
I have been able to confirm they are brothers by connecting 40+ DNA descendents on Ancestry.
A variety of records indicate they are from Pennsylvania and/or New York.
Please Note: Emory Smith is NOT related.
Emory's (kit 32472) descendent William Henry Smith has a 4th-5th cousin match to my Aunt Melba Rosine Smith however a male Smith descendent (R-M269) we tested is not a match to Emory (E-V13). Both are direct male descentents in their lines.
I have also checked the Y-DNA and although both Darius Smith from Welland County and Darius Champion Smith both originate from the R-M269 haplogroup our cousin (kit 228973) completed the FTDNA Y-67 test and only 21/30 Y-STR values match to known descendents of Darius Champion Smith (kit 110153).
I am not experienced with Y-DNA so I'm hoping If I am misunderstanding that someone can help clarify.
*Oliver Smith & Sarah Ann Ribble
Sarah Ann's father is Anthony Ribble. He is also living next door to Ira Smith in 1861 Wainfleet, Welland County, Ontario, Canada
*Henry Malcolm Oliver Smith & Clara Davis - Norfolk County, Ontario, Canada
*Harry Smith - Norfolk County, Ontario, Canada
I apprecaite any thoughts on this. This is the same brick wall I have had since I started researching 30+ years ago.
Thank you so much :)
I have join smithworld in order to do research for this group. I would be glad to look into your tangled web. Can you provide which sons of Darius you descend and the next male Smith. I like to have 3 generations to work with.
Thank you very much for your offer to help. Here is a link to my tree. Please note that information on Darius Champion Smith and Emory Smith is included with notes to other researchers.
Elizabeth Brotherton is potential spouse however I cannot find any documents other than her marriage to confirm so I continue to research other Darius and Elizabeth's in the New York and Pennsylvania area.
My line is
*Harry Elmer Smith (1904 - 1990) & Gertrude Culver (1900 - 1955) Norfolk County, Ontario
*Henry Malcolm Oliver Smith (1863 - 1950) & Clara Davis (1878 - 1946) Norfolk County, Ontario, Canada
*Oliver Smith (1827-1912) & Sarah Ann Ribble (1831 - 1906) Welland & Norfolk Counties
*Darius Smith (abt. 1794-?) & Elizabeth (abt. 1805-?) Lincoln/Welland County and New York and/or Pennsylvania.
Thank you so much agaon
Since I was not able to access your ancestry tree, I spent a long time trying to weed through the unsourced trees. I did send you a private message on smithworldwide of my recommendations for future research.